Dan and Linda Hull

Hull Family Histories

2011-01-14T16:41:00.000-08:00

I am adding all of the family histories that are going in the Hull History Book. I will put most of them up now and add a few more over the next month. If you look at them please send me any correction or additions you would like.

2008-09-03T10:01:00.000-07:00

Here is the newest Hull-Sasha Mary Hull. Sasha is a Russian name which is what Becky, her mom will speak to her and Mary is from Mary Benson and her husbands grandmother. Sasha weighed 7 pounds 1 ounce and is 19 1/2 inches long. You can tell I am proud.
The parents are Becky (Hull) and Aaron Henson of Sandy, Utah. Sasha was born at 8:02 PM on the 1st of September, 2008

2008-07-26T06:32:00.000-07:00

2008-07-26T06:27:00.000-07:00

Elizabeth Frew Hull 1921-2008

2008-07-24T21:53:00.000-07:00

Yesterday my mother, Beth, passed away at home at 7:27 am. She lived a full life and is finally at peace after 6 years of Dialysis. She was a great mother to me as I grew up. I am including a collage of pictures of her as she grew up.

Our family is expanding

2008-07-17T17:03:00.000-07:00

This past week I got notice from one of the newest DNA families that have ties to us-Richard T Hull-that his family goes back to Lancashire, England and one generation earlier to Northern Wales. We had supposed that our family could have immigrated from England to Ireland due to other DNA cousins from Ireland having ancestors who left Lancashire, England. This family is the first to actually have ancestors actually from that area.

2007-10-01T20:13:00.000-07:00

Dear Family Members who have donated to the DNA study:

This past year has been long but very rewarding. When we first met and talked about the DNA studies I had no idea how successful we would be. Some of us traveled to Ireland and there we got a test done that connected us to the Aghalee Hull's of Antrim, Ireland. This gives us a connection to the Hulls who migrated to Aghalee from Lancashire, England. I have been searching for 20 years to try and find where we might have come from before Richard Hull 1750 arrived in Dungiven area. Now we have a good chance of finding out.

Over the past year we have also been connected to 5 or 6 other Hull lines here in the US and these same lines may have originated of course in the same area. We are in the process of extending the tests of three family lines to the 37 degree or marker level and we are also going to be testing about 6 or 7 more people to help in completing the study. Two in Australia, one in England, three in Ireland and one in the US. If anyone would like to help fund a few more tests we would appreciate the funds because we only have enough to do about three more tests. We will eventually need to test 3 or 4 more in England in Lancashire and a couple of more additions to our current families so they are all at the same level.

I cannot emphasize the great potential this has and the terrific support your help in supporting these tests have been. I gave a presentation the other day at a Genealogy Conference and to do it I calculated the potential names we have added to our line by doing the tests. The chart below is that rough calculation. Once we have put all of the names into our system the DNA tests will more than double our family.Richard Hull b. ca. 1750, IRE

Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Years)

Modal

2827

7433

97262

2516

89766

28911

12081

74103

6397

82044

33273

3991

3924

74102

Modal

1350

1110

660

2010

510

360

240

180

240

360

2827 John Thomas Hull R1b1

1350

180

1650

2760

1020

1650

1350

1650

7433 Woodrow Wilson Hull R1b1

1110

180

1290

2760

960

1290

1350

1110

1440

97262 John Rosman Hull R1b1

660

1650

1290

1650

510

660

810

1020

510

660

960

2516 Richard Dwight Hull R1b

2010

2760

1650

2010

1650

2010

1650

89766 George Gordon Hull R1b1

510

1020

960

510

2010

510

660

720

360

510

810

28911 Philip Golden Hull R1b1

360

1650

1290

660

2010

510

360

450

240

360

660

12081 Murray James Hull R1b1

240

1650

1290

810

1650

660

360

450

360

240

510

74103 Dan Hull R1b1

240

1650

1290

810

1650

660

360

450

360

240

510

6397 Jay Alton Hull R1b1c

240

1650

1290

810

1650

660

360

450

360

240

510

82044 Laurence Ollie Hull R1b1

180

1350

1020

2010

720

450

180

450

33273 Thomas Hugh Hull R1b1

180

1350

1020

2010

720

450

180

450

3991 Winfred David Hull R1b1

240

1350

1110

510

2010

360

240

360

180

240

510

3924 Robert Eugene Hull R1b1

1350

1110

660

2010

510

360

240

180

240

360

74102 Paul [nmn] Hull R1b1

360

1650

1440

960

1650

810

660

510

450

510

360

0-270 Years

300-570 Years

600-870 Years

900-1170 Years

- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Average mutation rate varies: 0.0023 to 0.0031
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested
- Probability is 50% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated
- Average generation: 30 years

Note: Charles Clinton Hull is not included in this chart â waiting for results from lab.

Go here to view DNA Results

TMRCA (Time to the Most Recent Common Ancestor)

The algorithm taken from Bruce Walsh paper, Estimating the Time to the Most Recent Common Ancestor for the Y chromosome or Mitochondrial DNA for a Pair of Individuals. The TMRCA calculations use the average mutation rate for all the markers common between the pair of haplotypes being compared.

There are three selections for how the mutation rate is determined. The mutation rate selection uses the FTDNA derived mutation rates. This includes a rate of 0.00399 for the first 12 markers, 0.00481 for markers 13 through 25, and 0.00748 for the markers 26 through 37.

The close distances are highlighted for easier visualization of possible family relationships by the following:

Â· 0-9 Generations: green

Â· 10-19 Generations: yellow

Â· 20-29 Generations: pink

30-39 Generations: blue

Note that if units of years are chosen, the number of generations is multiplied by the specified rate of years per generation.

GENETIC DISTANCE

Modal

2827

7433

97262

2516

89766

28911

12081

74103

6397

82044

33273

3391

3924

74102

Modal

2827 [John Thomas Hull]

R1b1

7433 [Woodrow Wilson Hull]

R1b1

97262 [John Rosman Hull]

R1b1

2516 [Richard Dwight Hull]

R1b

89766 [George Gordon Hull]

R1b1

28911 [Philip Golden Hull]

R1b1

12081 [Murray James Hull]

R1b1

74103 [Dan Hull]

R1b1

6397 [Jay Alton Hull]

R1b1c

82044 [Laurence Ollie Hull]

R1b1

33273 [Thomas Hugh Hull]

R1b1

3991 [Winfred David Hull]

R1b1

3924 [Robert Eugene Hull]

R1b1

74102 [Paul (nmn) Hull]

R1b1

Related	Probably Related	Possibly Related
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 12 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 25 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 37 Markers

Infinite Allele Mutation Model
The infinite allele model says that the entire difference between allele values, no matter how large, is the result of one mutation.

The close distances are highlighted for easier visualization of possible family relationships by the following:

Related : green
Probably Related : yellow
Possibly Related : pink

Aghalee Family research

2007-03-04T08:44:00.000-08:00

Aghalee-A map of the town in pictures and the main church.

The past couple of weeks I have been inputting all of the Hull family tree for the Aghalee, Antrim, Ireland area. I have used the information that I had previously collected through the Internet and visits to the area. I have also received great help from Cynthia in Australia who has made contact with a Ross Hull who lives down under and he is related to this same group and has sent us a couple of large files of family research with hundreds of names and information such as wills, research notes and genealogy. Rob Hull, our cousin from California, has compiled through research at the LA genealogical library, hundreds of names in lists of Baptisms, marriages and Burials. He sent this along with other great questions and written information that helps me to be able to link all or at least many of the names together in one big family tree.

Paul, our cousin in Belfast, newly connected to us through the DNA tests, has begun to collect names and data from this area because this is where his family originated in the early 1800s. With his added information it has helped me to clarify some of the lines and now I have almost 200 names in one big family tree for Aghalee. I haven't been able to connect Paul's line in yet but we will soon. From here we will need to continue to connect the 300 to 400 names available until we have it all mapped out and connected. This will then allow us to identify the lines that left and went to America, such as John Hull, BJ Hull and Thomas Hugh Hull and also my line that went off to Dungiven area of Ireland and then later immigrated to Idaho and Utah in the US. The Aghalee Hulls came from Lancashire, England from around Preston, just above Liverpool. We have already started to research this area and I have about 3500 Hull names that lived in this area recently and back to the 1600s or sooner.

It is believed that the Hulls came over from England to Soldiers Town, a place about 2 miles from Aghalee in the early 1600's.

We have only been able to accomplish this progression because of the DNA testing and the generous donations made by family members who gave on blind faith and now we are seeing the proof of their faith. We collected over $1800 for the testing and we will have exhausted this fund in the next few weeks and we still have 2 or 3 more $180 tests to do so if anyone can help please send the help to Carol Earl. She has an account set aside for this and she pays the DNA tests from this fund.

Paul Hull, Belfast, is going to help me find a Hull from Aghalee and also several from Blaris which is just across the fence into Down, Ireland. The Blaris Hulls and the Aghalee Hulls have lived next to each other for over 400 years and yet they may be separate, unrelated families. The DNA tests will prove it all out. Thanks again for your contributions and for your help in this research. Dan

DNA results.

2007-01-30T09:44:00.000-08:00

On the 19th of January I received notice of the results of the DNA test for Paul Hull of Belfast that I collected when I was there in October. I had already received notice of W Ivan Hull, a Reverend in Belfast, that his DNA did not match the Dungiven Hull line nor any other Hull line that had been tested. Paul, I thought, was a cousin to Reverend Hull but that proved to be not true and Paul ended up being related to our line. The results were reviewed by James Reynold Hull of Arizona and Paul is closely related to our line within the last 300 years. Paul's family is from Soldierstown or Aghalee, just Southwest of Lisburn and Belfast in the County of Antrim. He is even more closely related to one of the other DNA cousins a Thomas Hugh Hull. The next day, the 20th of January, Cynthia Hull our cousin frofm Australia sent documents that she had received from a Ross Hull who shared some of his family information which was about the same Hulls of Aghalee. Cynthia always trrumps any of my discoveries. From the documents that she sent me it shows that the Hulls of Soldierstown/Aghalee came in the mid 1600's to Ireland as soldiers and they came from the county of Lancashire in Northwest England, just above Liverpool. We are just in the early stages of this but if this all proves out the theory I am going to try to prove or disprove is that the DNA cousins in America (Rob, Winfred, Thomas Hugh, Phillip) all probably immigrated from these Aghalee Hulls and the Dungiven Hulls/Richard (Jay, Murray, Jim Hill) all left the same area and immigrated across Antrim to Londonderry during the 1700's or maybe a shade earlier and then went to Australia and the US in the 1800's. This theory would also connect all of these families to the original site of Hulls in Lancashire, England by way of the Belfast area. I have worked on this family line for almost 20 years and this is the first time that I think we have the potential to jump over the barrier of the Ireland Hulls.

2006-12-10T14:51:00.000-08:00

This is the inside of the Wigan Historical shop and is where the Rigby's are from. This place in near Liverpool and it just smells like history.
The nest three photos are of the farm are where Joh Rigby lived just before he immigrated to Utah.
The last photo is of Hindley Cemetery where many of our family are buried that lived in the Wigan are including family names of Rigby, Hesketh, Liptrott, Stanley and Taylor. Elizabeth Liptrott Rigby married Robert Hull my grandfather.

2006-12-10T14:42:00.000-08:00

The Glencart farm where William Gibson Hull was born. Two families shared this farm back in
the 1840's. Glencart is near In-the-Den, Dalry, Ayr, Scotland.

This medallion was given to Maggie Hull for her great work in teaching Sunday School in the Bovevagh Presbyterian Church.

The nest photo is of Rae Hamilton and her husband. She is a cousin and descendent of James Hull who was the brother of Thomas Hull II. The last photo is a clock that belonged to Margaret Hull her grandmother or great grandmother.

2006-12-10T14:36:00.000-08:00

These photos are of some of the collection of farm implements that David Hynds our cousin in Dungiven have collected. He has two or three large farm sheds full of them.

Kristin ready to listen to the cows milk and riding the old Massey tractor.

2006-12-10T14:33:00.000-08:00

These photos are copies of old photos of Maggie Hull and also her brother Tom. Maggie and Tom were the last Hulls to live in the Hillfoot Farm in Ballymakeever.

2006-12-10T14:30:00.000-08:00

These photos are all taken at New Grange which is just North of Belfast and the formations were made in 3000-3200 BC. Adam was alive when these were made.

2006-12-10T14:25:00.000-08:00

These pictures were taken by Kristin Cook. The first is a picture of some of the rock formations
and mountains at the Giants Causeway.

This is a fall scene from Lake Wandamere, Eng.

The two tiny people in the very back are Linda and I. Nice pictures Kristin!

Research and compiling

2006-12-07T18:41:00.000-08:00

I have spent many hours since the beginning of November researching and compiling all of the data and information that I accumulated in Ireland. I tried to be very thorough about collecting information but I have a lot to learn in how I keep track of things. When we were in Dungiven, Northern Ireland I got information about the Douglas, Irwin and Millar families. I think I will need two or more trips to do a good job and hooking it all together.
I was able to find the parents of Hugh Irwin that married Susanna Hull, the daughter of Thomas and Mary Hull. Hugh was from the townland of Ballyness which is where Janet Kerr lives. Hugh's father was Samuel Irwin and his mother was a Maria Hull. Susanna probably lived with her uncle William in Scriggan because Thomas and his family had already left for Scotland and were in Pennsylvania on the date Hugh and Susanna were married-21 February 1856. Scriggan is the townland next to the townland where the Hull farm was. Susanna and Hugh moved after marrying to first Australia and then on to New Zealand where their descendents now live. We met some Irwin people who still live in Ballyness.
The Douglas family and the Carnichael families lived to the East and South of our Hillfoot farm. Robert Hull, who was the one who bought our farm in the late 1870's. He married a Margaret Douglas from the farm just to the East of his. This Douglas family is a prominant family even today in the area and several Douglas men and women married into the Carmichael family the family just to the South of our farm. I guess if you live around each other long enough we would all be related. The Semple family bought the Hull farm in the 1960's and also had married into these same families. I collected a large family tree of the Semple/Carmichael families and I continued to increase the tree of the Douglas family. I am including a map that shows the position of the farm on the townlands of Ballymakeever and Tergoland.

Belfast Friends and DNA testing

2006-11-21T15:53:00.000-08:00

Kristin, Kathleen, Dan and Linda
Fiona and Paul Hull, and me
Reverand Ivan and Mrs. Hull in reverse

We went to Belfast and met Paul and Fiona Hull who are the family we have been trying to find since three visits back. Paul's dad and mom were serving a Temple mission in Preston, England when we went 4 plus years ago and two years agao,James, his dad had just passed away and so we didn't want to interupt so this time we found Paul home but his mom, Kathleen was working in the temple in Preston again and he said we would miss her if we went there on our regular schedule of ten days from then. It turned out that she stayed longer and this is a picture of her with Krisitn, Linda and I. Paul agreed to do the DNA test and he has since submitted it and he should have the results in a month or so. We also met a Reverand Ivan Hull and this is a picture of he and his wife and he agreed to have his DNA done also. Reverand Hull and his wife live a couple of blocks from the Publice Records House in Belfast. His will come out a couple of weeks later. Kathleen Lueg's cousin, George is also going to get someone from their family to test. I am slow but determined. Thanks to these kind friends for their help and kindness.

Friend and family in Dungiven and Limavady

2006-11-21T15:40:00.000-08:00

This is Suzzane and Oscar Armstrong. Suzzane is Janet's sister. Below is Trevor Hynds, Suzzane and Janet's brother. Krisitn and Dean Cook from Mesa and I are standing in the church of the Hull family in Bovevagh, Dungiven, Ireland.
The third picture is Kathleen and Jochen Lueg. Her mother was a Hull from Limavady. She lives up high on the hill where you can see across the Foyle(river) to Donagal and in the opposite direction to Dungiven.

Our friends and family in Ireland

2006-11-21T15:09:00.000-08:00

Joe- center,Emma-left and Joanne (Millar) -right Charmichael
The Chick and the Rooster
Hazel Carmichael and Linda
The Boys-David the third from the left
Wilf and Janet
Dan and Linda Hull
I am including some nice photos of some of the family and friends we visited with in Northern Ireland.
The first is Janet and Wilf our hosts in Dungiven. Janet is a descendent of Peggy Jane Hull, daughter of Thomas Hull II.
3rd-Hazel Carmichael and Linda-Hazel lives next to our family farm.
5th-Joe, Emma and other daughter-Hazel's family. Emma is e-mail pal of Alisha Pruess, Rosalie's grand-daughter, my niece.
2nd-The Irish boys, David Hynds, the third from the left is Janet's dad.
5th-The Irish chick, Janet, and of course Wilf.

Photos and research

2006-11-19T13:24:00.000-08:00

Tom and Maggie Hull
The Hull Hillfoot Farm House in about 1950
Dan at the PRONI
The wall around Londonderry. This wall was constructed by Peter Benson and is the wall referred to in the song "There is a Green Hill far away without a city wall. It was written by a local Irish lady

We have been home for a couple of weeks now and everything is a little boring compared to the trip but we must go on.
I have put together a pretty good photo show of the trip and started to digest all of the information. I am glad we have prenty of modern conveniences such as digital cameras, computers and scanners that help me keep track of everything. I am going to visit with Robert Parker and his wife Debi tomorrow to try to finalize some of the webpage structure and uploading so that we can get everything we collected made available to all that want it.
After reviewing the former way our ancestors used to collect and share information the new ways make it more simple.
The DNA study group has received two of the three DNA test kits so that will be fun to follow and hopefully with the contacts we made on the trip we can go forward to learn more about our family history and those who still live in Ireland, Scotland and England. I am enclosing a couple of pictures from our trip. The first picture is of Tom and Maggie Hull, the last residents of the Hillfoot farm in Dungiven, Northern Ireland. They are brother and sister. The second is an old photo of the Hillfoot farm aback in the lat 1940's early 50's. The third is a picture of me standing in front of the PRONI in Belfast, Ireland. This library is the main research library in Northern Ireland. The last is a picture of the part of the wall that is around Londonderry and was built by Peter Benson, the ancestor of Mary Benson, the wife of Thomas Hull II. Dan

Kristin's Blog-Wild Times @ Wigan

2006-11-05T12:59:00.000-08:00

Yes, as Dan mentioned, I did the blog on thursday and it was lost due to internet failure. But I would like to take the opportunity to add a few comments to that days travel that Dan didn't mention....

Wednesday morning, we left "Master The Tempest Is Raging" behind us in Sunderland. The sky was clear, the air bitter cold, and the waves pounding against the jetty and lighthouse near the B&B where we had stayed. We learned that Dan would much rather be caught in the middle of a raging storm, than lounge on a beautiful sunny beach, any day. Dean was being chased by the surf as he tried to capture the perfect photo of the waves reaching the top of the lighthouse and crashing over the jetty.... the waves were huge. Dan was in 'tempest heaven' and Dean was having a 'photo hayday'. Linda and I had to pretty much drag the guys away.

The drive east to the Lakes District and Windemere Lake was beautiful! I've been in awe this entire trip with the absolute beauty of the countryside everywhere we've been. I hope the photo's we've taken do justice to what we've actually seen in person.

We only had part of a day in Wigan/Hindley/Ince, so we decided we would try to trace some of the footsteps of my grandfather (Robert Rigby Hull) and grandmother as documented in his book, and get familiar with the area. We started looking for Victoria Hotel were they had stayed in Wigan. It is now Burnell's Pub/Bed & Breakfast, but still has "Victoria Hotel" written on the top of the side wall of the building. We took some photo's of the Wigan Parish Church which is actually a different church then the one grandpa has pictured in his book. We then went to the History Library/Store there in Wigan. It's a lovely old building with shelves and shelves of old books, records, and maps. Dan said it "smelled like bones"... he was salivating at just the thought of the hours he could spend there doing research....well, next time. There were two very nice gents there who pulled out some maps to show us the area and direct us to the local cemetaries. The cemetaries were large and wonderful. Grandpa has written that Elizabeth Hesketh (Grace Liptrot's mother) was buried in Hindley. We didn't come across her grave marker, but many other Rigby's, Hesketh's, and Liptrot's. Many of the grave stones were dated in the 1800's... so it was a good day! Grandpa has found the address where John Rigby lived in 1851, and we actually drove by the little street while looking for cemetaries and churches. Of course, there are modern homes there now. But we learned that Rigby's had continued to live on the street, and just up the street on Hilltop Farm, until just recently. Anyway, we have alot to look forward to doing in that part of England on our next visit.

I am so grateful for this opportunity I've had to "walk where my ancestors walked"! I had an absolutely wonderful time! Many thanks to Dan and Linda for inviting us to go with them. And thanks to my husband, Dean, for going along with me and being the photographer. I'm already looking forward our next trip there.

Dan and Linda Hull

2006-11-04T22:44:00.000-08:00

Liverpool, Whales and home!
Wayne, my brother , picked us up at the airport tonight at 9:30 pm and we are finally home in Salt Lake. We had a great time and we found hundreds of new people, saw many new family sites and renewed old acquantances with family and friends we met on earlier trips. One thing is for sure we have a great family no matter where they live and we love you all.
Our flight home was long but exciting because we almost missed our connecting flights in Philidelphia and Baltimore and we were so close in Baltimore that my luggage didn't make it home. Tomorrow maybe. I kept all of the documents and computer with me as carryon so clothes lost are okay for a day or so. Kristin and Dean, our traveling partners are in seperate places as I write, Kristin is home in Mesa and Dean is in Italy for some business. Kristin did the blog on Thursday but the internet failed just as she was to upload so we didn't have one after we had gone to see Adrian's wall in the center of England, a Roman built wall across England from coast to coast and then we visited the Lake District and saw lake Wandamere and some pretty sights there and then we visited Wigan where Grandma Elizabeth Liptrott Hull was from. Wigan has the best history for three families of ours, the Rigby, the Liptrott and the Hesketh families. We found a lot of information and some great web sites for searching and we took tons of photos of family grave markers. I hated to leave. We went to the Preston Temple to do a session and we went there at night and guess who was helping at the clothing counter but Kathleen Hull, Paul Hull's mother, and she invited us over for a short visit because it was late at night. She was so kind and after 3 plus years of trying to find her we finally met her there. She gave us a tour went on a session with us and the temple is beautiful.
On Friday we left at 7 am and drove down to Liverpool and visited a Beetles sight at the docks area and also where the Hulls left for America. We then drove west across Whales clear to the far west tip at Holyhead to catch the ferry to Dublin which we did and we got to our room packed and left to the airport Saturday morning and here we are home safe and sound and not having run into anyone on the wrong side of the rode for over 1700 miles. Thanks to Linda as the map person, Kristin the director and Dean the gps man who told us when we were lost and got us back to a good place, we are home safe. But best of all thanks to our friend upstairs who directored our travels, help us find good people and protected us from harm. I will start uploading pictures tomorrow and letting you see what we saw. Dan

Dan and Linda Hull

2006-11-04T02:31:00.000-08:00

Dan and Linda Hull
Well we are in Shannon, Ireland on our way home to the US. We are just in the airport waiting for the customs part. We had a great trip and we really appreciate all of the help from Dean and Kristin. We will send you updates as we process them over the next week or so. Dan and Linda

Monkwearmouth-Sunderland-England

2006-10-31T13:26:00.000-08:00

Dan and Linda Hull
The weather changed during the night and it went from mild to cold and tonight bitter cold. With the wind blowing off the sea it is very cool. We had another great day of searching for Morrisons in Monkwearmouth and talking to local historians at the local library. We also went to St Peter's Church to photogragh it for Debbi and then we head to the Museum to learn about all of the ship building that occurred in Sunderland. In the 1800's, Sunderland was the largest ship building center in the world-so they say. They made hundreds of clipper ships like our ancestors sailed on from Liverpool. The ship was probably made here. About 1900 they started making metal ships or the more modern kind and so the industry changed from wood to metal. Linda's family mostly worked as ship carpenters and they all lived in a place called the Barbary Coast which is where Monkwermouth is.
Tomorrow we travel west through the Lake District and over to the Liverpool area to visit the area where the Rigby side of our family originated. It promises to be quite cool on the last three days but the scenery is supposed to be the most beautiful of England. Kristin is going to take the lead on this part of the trip as Linda did the last couple of days. By time we get back the different families will all be jumbled a bit but with all of the photos, documents and notes we should be able to seperate them all quite well.

A beautiful day in England

2006-10-30T12:50:00.000-08:00

Dan and Linda Hull
We had a great beginning with a lovely stoll on the beach with a light breeze and about 60 degrees. We then walked over to the Monkweermouth to the cemetery where the Morrisons were supposed to be buried. It was only a block from the hotel we are staying from so I did very good in my booking the room. We found a couple of Morrison grave sites but not the ones Linda wanted so we moved to the center of town-Sunderland to see what the records office and library had. we first had to tour the National Glass Center where they blow hand blown glass. It was beautiful and very nice. We spent the afternoon chasing down all of the names we could at the local library and we had a great deal of success. This is good training for us as we get near to the Rigby group in Liverpool area. Debbi Parker asked me for the obituary of Samuel Cottam and I was able to find it and we will go to St. Peters Church tomorrow to take pictures and look at it's cemetery, another one of her requests, so at least we accomplished some of the desires of the family. We will be doing bone chasing all day tomorrow and hopefully we will find the right ones. We are still having great fun and getting fat on the lovely restaurants here. The deserts they have here are heavenly.
We did find a memorial to the little children that died in the theatre in the 1800's here in Sunderland-183 of them suffocated when someone yelled fire and they all fell on each other down the stairs and the door was locked. Alexander Morrison, Linda's Great Grand-father jumped up into the window and started to sing and this calmed the children so that more were not killed. Sad story but a good hero and lukily he had a great singing voice for a young boy. Have a good day. Dan, Linda, Kristin(I missed spelled her name before, sorry!) and Dean.

Scotland

2006-10-29T11:30:00.000-08:00

Elder Kauhane and Kristin and Dean. This picture was taken in Dalkeith a suburb of Edinburgh.
The Castle of Edinburgh at the end of the RoyalMile
Another view of Edinburgh
The home or place called Glencart, the home where William Gibson Hull was born and where Thomas and Mary lived for a few years. It is located in IN-the-Den, a small mining community, and near Dalry, Scotland.

Dan and Linda Hull
We spent the day in Edinburgh and was able to see the sights-castles, churches and most of the Royal Mile. Linda located where the Morrisons had lived for three or four generations and we went by and took some pictures there. They all must have worked for the queen because they all lived within a stones throw of the Royal Mile, which is the heart of Edinburgh. We then went down to find a place near where a missionary friend of Dean and Kristin was serving and we found a nice place to stay. We invited the Elder Kauhane and his companion Elder Drennan over for breakfast. It turns out that it was his birthday and so we had an early celebration and then we went to church at the Dalkeith Ward. It was small but very nice and Linda even found a few more leads on her Morrison quest.
I think Dean has taken about 1600 pictures and I have another 300 so it will with all of the records and information take us months to catelogue all. We arrived in Sunderland, England tonight about 6 pm and we have a place near the sea so it will be nice and it isn't too cold. It has been stormy the last week so we actually saw the sun most of the day as we traveled across Scotland to England.
We have been gone along time and hope all are well. So far we have placed three testing kits for DNA and I hope to place one more in Leeds, England. We will do research here for two days and then go to the Rigby family site near Liverpool for a few days. Well have a good week. Dan, Linda, Kristin and Dean

GLASCOW AND EDINBOURGH

2006-10-28T03:39:00.000-07:00

We spent yesterday in the area of Ardrossan, Dalry, In-the -Den and Beith. This is where is the Hull's went to after they left Ireland during the potato famine. They went there to work in the coal mines of Dalry. In-the-Den is the exact place where they lived. We first went to the home of the Gilberts who we met thre years ago and helped us find the local history and places. He has a very strong Scottish Brogue and we laughed because after forty years his wife still has a hard time understanding him. He said that he had just talked to a man yesterday about us and the Frew family, my mother's line, and he had given him our information. He was then especially surprised to seee us show up the next day on his doorstep. We then went down to the farm, Glencart, where William Gibson Hull was born. We took lots of pictures and if you want to see the farm go to www.glencart.com It is a horse farm for English jumping training.
We then went to Ardrossan and met with Rae and Tom Hamilton, she is a Strand and a descendent of James Hull the brother of Thomas Hull II. She spent 6 weeks a summer most of her youth at the Hull Hillfoot farm in Dungiven with Maggie and Tom Hull. She had some great stories and she loaned us her pictures of the farm to have them reproduced. She is also going to write a brief history of the farm and what it was like 60 years ago. She helped me with some questions about Christina Hull and Marie Hull of Ardrossan. Well we are in Glascow and Linda and Kristin are at the records office trying to find the records of James Hull and where he is buried. Got to go. Dan

Leaving Ireland and going to Scotland

2006-10-26T07:06:00.000-07:00

We had agreat day in Limavdy visiting with George Hull. He is a descendent of the Limavday Hulls and he wasmost warm in receiving us on a rainy night. He told us about his family and about a Margaret Hull who lived in a townland way up on the hill above Limavady and that it was the Adams home before or the farm of the Adams. We went there this morning and with the help of first Janet to get us to George's and then George's help to find the farm we made it to Margaret and her new house high on the hill. The view was breathtaking and you could see across the Foyle or the water to Donegal. She gave us information about the different farms and areas that the Huls lived in during the past 200 years. From her house yu could see mostof the places and her husband is a profesional photographer and he is going to mail me a DVD with photos of the area and I will post them when I get home.We are of to the ferry. Love you all. Dan, Linda, Kristin, Dean

We found Birdstown

2006-10-25T06:51:00.000-07:00

We are now at the Giants Causeway in Northern Ireland. It is stormy as usual but the ocean is beaauiful and the scenery is spectacular. We went to Londonderry yesterday and visited where the Bensons lived and worked. We walked around the wall of Londonderry that was built by Peter Benson in the early 1600s. Janet, our cousin , told us about how one side still devides the Catholics/Green party from the Protestants/Orange and how the army has to constantly keep things supervised or segregated to keep the peace. We went to St. Colomb Church where the Bensons and Careys went to church. It is a very old church.
After Londonderry we went to Birdstown which is in Donegal. It took us a while but we finally found the Birdstown Estate. It is very beautiful and otu in the rolling hills of Ireland. We wil be fnalizing things tonigt and then heding to Ayr, Sctland by way of Belfast and a ferry.
We learned that m sister-in-law Lois Kakunes passed away. Lois was Rons first wife. Kids please save obituary.
We would like to thank Janet and Wilf for there loving care and the Carmichaels, Cartwrights and Hynds for all of their help and assistance. They are all so kind.

Krisitn's Blog

2006-10-23T08:27:00.000-07:00

Saturday night we went to Davie and Betty Cartwright's home and Dan picked their brains about the Millar family and the Smyth family. Thomas Hull, the first, married Elizabeth Millar and James and Samuel Hull married Smyth sisters. James and Samuel Hull were Thomas Hull, the second's brothers. On Sunday, we visited the Bovevagh Presbyterian Church and sat on the family pew with Trevor Hynds. The Bovevagh Church is where our family attended for about one hundred years. We then went to several cemetaries and then over to David and Mary Hynds' home where we saw David's large Ireland "farm implement" collection. We went back to Janet and Wilf and had a wonderful time with about 30 neighbors and cousins around the Dungiven area. We have to listen very closely to them talk and often requested them to repeat what was said for us to understand them. Kristin would watch the faces of Dan and Linda to see if we were able to understand any of the conversations. One of the relatives or neighbor, a Joe Carmichael, agreed to go to the Dungiven Presbyterian Church records. We were able to look at them this morning. We found some really good information and dates that we did not have before. We also learned that the Hullfoot farm has been sold and the Carmichael's would much prefer that we owned it because we would only be a "bother" every two years! We took some really good photos and "looted" by removing a doorknob and a couple of latches from the doorways. Kristin also gained a slate tile...we thought we could bring the truckload and sell them to you for $5 and pay for our trip! Just kidding! We are now at the Limavady Council house where we got a record that says that Suzanna Hull married Hugh Irwin from Ballyness. Hugh's father was Samuel Irwin. We will try to find Samuel's information. Tonight we are going to visit Joe Carmichael to discuss the map of Rob Hull from California. The map is of Ballymacheever and Turgoland. We are having a wonderful time and Janet and Wilf are taking beautiful care of us. Kristin and Dean are finally sleeping through the night!

Dungiven II

2006-10-21T15:46:00.000-07:00

I am trying to save some pictures for you to see. Yesturday when we were at the New Grange place Some people had carved their name inside the special chamber before anyone had started to preserve it back in the 1800's and right there next to the most sacred area was the name: J Hull. I guess it was fate or something.
Today while we went around visiting we talk to a man who said that someone had sold the one acre lot that is where the original Hull/Hillfoot farmhouse is for 240,000 pounds or about 400,000 dollars and there would soon be a new house there. They passed a new zoning rule that you can't build in the country unless it is your own farm or it is your child or it replaces an old home. I guess progress is coming to Northern Ireland. The house was bought including the land for 430 pounds back in 1887 for the first time after leasing it for almost a hundred years. The price has gone up.
We made some headway in finding some of the other lines such as Millars and Smyths and tomorrow we are getting together with a bunch of the neighbors for dinner and we will pick all of their brains for a few hours. Janet and Wilf are feeding us way too well, we will need to diet for sure after this week. We visited Betty and Davey who are distant cousins through the Douglas family, Robert Hull, the brother of Thomas Hull II, and they were very nice and helpful. I will try to upload some pictures and if I can't I will send them to Robert for his expert help. We are going to church at the Bovevagh Presbyterian tomorrow. That is where Thomas Hull I and his family went up until the 1950's. Talk to you tomorrow. Dan

Arrived in Dungiven

2006-10-21T04:59:00.000-07:00

We have had a rough time finding internet access so we missed Thursday and Friday. Thursday we were headed to Dublin and there was no internet at the B & B and evrything else was closed and Friday when we arrived in Dungiven our cousins Janets internet didn't work so we are at the Dungiven Library. We did get to go see the Reverand Hull on Thursday. I first walked there but walked almost and hour and when I got to his address I had picked up the wrong piece of paper and I didn't have his exact address and by time I returned he had left but he did leave his 4 generattions of genealogy and I visited him a couple of hours later and he agreed to do the DNA test. He was very kind and I got a picture of he and his wife. I returned to the Proni and we got the 7 maps we had found and they had put them on a CD so we will be able to upload them later. The next morning after our drive to Dublin from Belfast we picked up Kristin and Dean and first we went to the New Grange an ancient site near Dublin. I will upload pictures later. The site was beleived to be a worship site dated about 3200 BC. Adam could have been alive then. It is really cool. Then we drove over to Dungiven taking about 5 hours to do so and we arrived at about five and went in to see the Dungiven castle and then droves 4 miles to Janet's house. We took a quick trip to the Hillfoot Hull farm before dinner because it promises to rain for three days. It was almost dark but each time we go the house caves in a little more. Then we had a great supper with Janet and Wilf-Irish stew without the Irish andTruffle and other good things and we retired early. I must save this blog or loose it so goodby until tonight. Dan

Meeting with Paul Hull and the Reverand Hull

2006-10-18T15:38:00.000-07:00

We had another fun day at the PRONI doing research and trying to find all of the lists of refences and maps. We found some very good documentation and maps of the Hulls in Lisburn and Belfast and some maps to tell us where they lived. As I said yesturdy, that we saw a Presbyterian Church with the Reveran W. I Hull listed on their markee, so tonight at 7:45 p.m. I went to their community meeting and when I walked in and introduced myself as a Hull they all said that the Reverand and I looked a lot like each other.
As predicted the nose was one of the trademarks. His isn't as big but it still has the hook.He came in a few minutes later and I told him what I was up to and that I would like him to do the DNA test and give me his family tree information. He seemed agreeable and we made an appointment for 9:30 in the morning to meet at his home and he would make copies of his family information. Then at 8:30 p.m. Paul Hull called who is the son of a man we tried to contact three and half years ago when we came before. His family are Mormons and Rob Hull, our DNA cousin from California, was able to find him through writing letters to many Hulls in Northern Ireland. Paul and his wife said they would come over so they did and we had a great visit and he took the DNA kit and signed the release so mission accomplished plus he agreed to help me to do more research with the families here in Belfast and Lisburn. He is married to a lovely lady from Brazil and they have one son.
It has been avery good day even though it was stormy most of the day the sun came out for a while and things went well. The PRONI is in a very nice suburb that back in the days of our family was called the linen district or the Lagan Valley. There are many nice homes and the reason the PRONI is in this area is because the Irsih rebellion group blew up the records house in the early 1920's and so the government didn't want it in an area where the rebels lived or could have easy access to blow it up again. I am including a few pictures of houses near the records place and a rugby filed at the Royal Academy of Belfast which is just around the corner. Well it is getting late and we are off to the appointment, then the PRONI for a few hours then over to the Lisburn cemetery to document that area again and then to the Airport B & B to await Kristin and Deans arrival the next day. Thanks again to the great family to be part of and for Robert Parker in keeping things working on the web.

Belfast and our first visit to the PRONI

2006-10-17T14:46:00.000-07:00

we arrived in Belfast on Monday and went to our Bed and Breakfast and rested and studied up on all of the things we needed to research. We are staying about a mile from the PRONI which is the research or records office of Northern Ireland. We walked there this morning, Tuesday, and started to look up the lists submitted to us by Rob Hull our DNA cousin and Cynthia, our cousin from Australia and a few of my own. Linda started out finding the 23 page article called "The Benson's of Donegal" that Uncle Bob found back in the 70's and tried to hand copy because they wouldn't allow copying then. This time we were allowed copies and I just got through reading the paper and it has a lot of information about the Bensons and one is that Peter Benson the builder comes from Northern England near a place we are going for three days on our trip. Linda, my wife, requested that we go to the site of her Morrison line which is in Sunderland, England. Peter Benson's family live a short distance and Debbie Parker's family, wife of our famous web host, Robert Parker, family lives in Sunderland also so we have a bunch of research ahead. Today we also got the deed to the Hillfoot farm when it was first puchased from the Skinner Company by Robert Hull Robert is the brother of Thomas Hull 2nd and he married a Margaret Douglas. The Hull family, Thoma Hull 1st, leased the land and farm from about the early 1800's to the purchase. We will be visiting several relations from the Douglas family on our trip both in Dungiven and in Scotland. The deed shows we bought the farm from the skinners in 1887 for about £450.00 pounds. We paid about 10% down and then agreed to pay over time and a second deed is recorded that says that the debt was to beforgiven because of the family being indentured or something like that. All of the properties around our farm were purchased by their tenets about the same time and all were forgiven the debt about the same time. We also got a copy of the map of the landowners of our farm in Ballymackeever and Tirgoland the one next door and a map of all of the townlands held by the skinners. These are only available here in the PRONI. We will continue to pursue the research tomorrow and Thursday morning. This evening we went walking to get some food and to get an adapter for the 240 power they have here and we walked by a Presbyterian Church and guess who is the Priest a Reverand Hull. So tomorrow at 8 p.m. we are crahing their meeting to see if we can get his genealogy and do a DNA test on him. I am sure he will think we are crazy but if I have to I will tackle him and have Linda do the swabbing before he can protest. Across the street from where we are staying is another Presbyterian Church and it turns out that this parish has a copy of all of the Northern Ireland parish records. They are just housed a couple of miles from here so we will make an appointment and go there. I can definetly feel Mary Benson and the family helping us and if I don't get put in jail for illegal swabbing we should do really well with all of our leads. I will include some pictures tomorrow but not much to see so far.

Trip to Ireland

2006-10-11T08:28:00.000-07:00

Linda and I are leaving the 15th for Northern Ireland. We will first be going to Lisburn/Belfast to work in the PRONI, a library of records for Northern Ireland, and also will be searching in that area for descendents of Samuel Hull, the brother of Thomas Hull II and his great uncle James Hull, the brother of Richard Hull. We will be taking 4 DNA kits and some permission sheets that will allow us to gather DNA samples to help prove the lines. Over ten cousins back in Utah have helped us raise funds to pay for the tests so this should make it easier to convince them to participate. We already have three families in the US that we have connected to using the DNA testing program.
On the 20th we will pick up at the Dublin airport Kristen and Dean, Kris is Bill Hull's daughter from Pocatello, and they will join us as we go from Dublin over to Dungiven where our family originated. Dungiven is about 20 miles East of Derry (Londonderry). We will be staying with Janet Kerr and Wilf her husband, she is the Great Grand Daughter of Peggy Jane Hull, the ist daughter of Thomas Hull II. We will continue our research for relatives with the name of Benson, Miller and Hull and also trying to find the descendents of John Hull an immigrant to Australia who left two children and his wife in Dungiven to go to the Gold fields in Victoria where he died. After 5 days in this area we will travel to Ayr, Scotland to a little hamlet called In-the-Den which is part of Dalry to visit the birth place of William Gibson Hull and do research and visiting of relatives of James Hull, the brother of Thomas Hull II and Margaret Hull the sister of the same. We will be close to Glascow and will do a day or so of research there.
On about the 28th we will drive across part of Scotland to NorthEast England to visit the are of Durham/north Cumberland where my wife Linda's family lived and then after a few days down to Liverpool are where we will visit the home area of the Rigby's, Chadwicks and Hespeths. This is my grandmother's family. After a few days of research we will take the ferry across to Dublin and fly home.
I would like to thank my Uncle's and Aunts and cousins before me that were so faithful in their research and seeking out our family. I have and will continue to use the book published by these relies to guide me in our travels and research. Cynthia and Murray, our cousins in Australia, and Rob Hull, our DNA cousin in California have all given assignments and directions to follow as we go on this trip. That is so helpful to me. Robert Parker and his wife and brother and have been extremely helpful with the website, posting of pictures and records and supporting this whole project, and my Sister Carol who is patiently collecting histories contacting cousins and keeping us all connected. Linda who is so patient with my obsession of doing this reseach is a great companion and willing to travel far from her home and children. Thanks Linda. I will try to update this blog with info and pictures each day as we travel across the country. Talk to you later. Dan

Dan and Linda Hull: Dan and Linda Hull

2005-12-04T19:32:00.000-08:00

Dan and Linda Hull: Dan and Linda Hull

Sheet for Richard Hull family-page 2 made by Cynthia Hull

2005-11-29T15:53:00.000-08:00

Genealogy sheet for Richard Hull of Northern Ireland-Page 1

2005-11-29T15:52:00.000-08:00

Hillfoot Farm in Dungiven-Lived in by the Hull family from early 1800's to the 1950's

2005-11-29T15:41:00.000-08:00

Looking towards Benbradagh and the Hillfoot Farm of Thomas Hull-Dungiven, Northern Ireland

2005-11-29T15:36:00.000-08:00

Dan and Linda and their children and grandchildren at their daughter Becky's wedding in June 2005

2005-11-29T15:33:00.000-08:00

Cynthia, Murray, Linda and Carol-Hulls in Londonderry-Dan is taking the picture

2005-11-29T15:28:00.000-08:00

Dan and Linda Hull

2005-11-29T14:10:00.000-08:00

Dan and Linda Hull live in Sugarhouse, Salt Lake City, Utah. They have traveled to Australia and to Northern Ireland twice each in the last five years visiting relatives of Richard Hull Descendents and related families. They have, with the help of cousins and friends, compiled and collected records that connect more than 7000 people together and have many histories, pictures and documents that help prove these relationships.
In visiting these two areas they have developed contacts in these two countries as well as Scotland, New Zealand and the United States and Canada. These contacts have become their close friends and have hosted them as well as they have hosted them in their home in Salt Lake.
Dan's sister, Carol Earl, has created a library for the Hull family and Cynthia and Murray Hull in Australia have a very extensive collection of records in their home.
Dan is a member of the Hull Family Association of America and submits some records there also. Dan and Linda and cousins in the Hull Family in Utah, Idaho, Australia and other places are in the process of re-writing the Family book that was written back in the 1980's by Robert Rigby Hull and cousins. Included in the book will be DNA cousins that have been linked by DNA studies but haven't gotten records to link them yet. The first book included mainly the history of the Hulls in Ireland and Scotland and their migration to the United States. The new book will also include the previous histories and new chapters on the Hulls in Australia, New Zealand, Canada as well as updates on Hulls that still live in Northern Ireland and Scotland and other areas of the world.